MY RESPONSE TO A DECUSSION ON A CHRISTIAN FORUM ABOUT CIRCUMCISION, COVENANTS AND THEN I WAS ASKED ABOUT MEFACHADIM

We are a "biblical only" Jewish sect. We accept the Rabbinical writings with a grain of salt, since they contradict many things of the Torah. However, many things are correct. Our brothers, the Karaites, claim to be biblical, which they are in many, many, many areas, however they reject many things of the Torah as metaphorical as well and  not literally.

Some "oral" laws are needed, especially in modern times. Deut 17:8-13 allows the adding of laws to the Torah and we see this throughout the Tanach. When a law is "added," however, it cannot contradict what Moses established, nor undermine anything written.

Let me given some examples:
1) Arson is not mentioned in the Torah, yet it is clear that we must not do it.
2) Abortion is not bluntly mentioned in the Torah, yet through other laws we can clearly see it is not allowed.
3) Pornography is not allowed, yet the ancient world made nude statues all the time.
4) New Moon laws are not talked about that much in the Torah, just what needs to be sacrificed on those days. We find "hidden laws" about the New Moons in Nehemiah and Amos. From these other places we can establish correct “oral” laws.
5) Modest apparel is not mentioned, except in passing when talking about the priests when discussing their under garments.
6) What defines "work" regarding the Shabat? What defines "servile work" regarding other specific holidays?

Thus, we need some added law to fill in these gaps. First we skim through all of the Tanach to see what the prophets said or could have said about a certain subject or we try to gather an overall teaching from these writings. 

Most covenants were not based on blood, not Abraham's, not Noah's, not David's, not Phinehas', nor the covenant/promise of Jonadab in Jer 35:19.

When Moshe came down from Horeb, he gave the people a new law and Moshe made sacrifices and then sprinkled the people... "And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said: 'Behold the blood of the covenant, which the LORD hath made with you in agreement with all these words."

(DISCLAIMER: I do not believe in Noah, thus I do not believe in the existence of Noah's covenant, I was simply making the point, for more information as to "why" I do not believe in the first 11 chapters of Genesis, please look at the right side of this article... here: http://ancientjudaism.homestead.com/Is-the-Earth-really-6184-years-old-----No.html).

There is a big difference between Abraham vs. me and my brothers, even Isaac. Abraham was circumcised as a sign of the covenant that HaShem made with him. Abraham believed HaShem first, of course. However, the circumcisions of Abraham's children is not based on the child's faith, this is why Moses said to our ancestors, "circumcise your hearts." The children were circumcised, yet they were idolaters and rebels often times. They worshipped the gods of Egypt and sacrificed to the gods of Moab in the Baal-Peor event.

Speaking of non-Jews:
It is impossible for a non-Jewish male to keep the Torah, if he is not circumcised. Let's say a non-Jew is practicing all of the Torah, yet he is not circumcised in the flesh. He is to be rejected until he is circumcised. Once he is circumcised he may be apart of Israel. All people are welcomed, but not all people can be accepted until they fulfill their duties. Judaism is a religion based on two things, faith and strict Torah observance. Likewise, there are different degrees of consequences to certain sins or offenses. The worst is a capital offense charge; exile or  one’s citizenship can be revoked, fees can be put on the person‘ one can be put into slavery; whippings; sin offerings and...

However, other offenses simply require a “sorry” to HaShem. 

I hope this helps.

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